Episode 9: Are You a Rebel or an Advocate on Climate Change?

Eileen Flanagan

Author, speaker and activist Eileen Flanagan


Amani Thurman

Citizens’ Climate Radio is a monthly podcast hosted by CCL volunteer Peterson Toscano. Browse all our past episodes here, and check out the latest episode in the post below.

So much protesting, marching, and disruption happening these days. What are the best ways to get governments to address pollution and the effects of global warming? Eileen Flanagan, a writer, a social change teacher, a Quaker, and an activist, chats with host Peterson Toscano about the four different roles people have traditionally taken in change movements. Are you a rebel, an advocate, an organizer, or a helper? Maybe a little bit of each.

Amani Thurman, a college student who has spent time protesting but has begun to do volunteer lobbying, weighs in. You will also hear under-reported good news happening with American conservatives and climate change.








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And now for some climate comedy… Elizabeth Jeremiah, a comic character created by Peterson, talks about blessings and curses. To help drive her point home, she explains how carbon dioxide polluted by humans acts as a generational curse, one that falls upon the heads of the children “and the children’s children’s children.” Drawing on lessons she learned in church, Elizabeth Jeremiah issues a call for national repentance. Turn away from that flamboyant, sinful, fossil fuel lifestyle!


Last month Simon asked, “But is all warming bad? Can’t a little global warming be a good thing in colder places?” We hear your answers and present you with a new puzzler question. This one is inspired by a question Charles Ashurst sent in.

You are at meeting with other climate advocates. There are the fresh young faces. There are also the seasoned older faces.  And there’s Charlie, a crusty old curmudgeon who’s been on the climate change band wagon since the 1970s. You just heard a presentation about the need to build on shared values with lawmakers and leaders in the fossil fuel industry. Charlie blurts out, “Shared values? Really? These are determined folks we’re up against. They don’t play nice. We are not going to win by playing nice with them.” What do you say to Charlie?

Send in your answers. Leave your name, contact info, and where you are from.

Send in your answers by March 15, 2017, along with your name, contact info, and where you are from. You can email your answers to or leave a voice memo of 3 minutes or less at 570-483-8194 (+1 if calling from outside the USA).

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